8. Clean Surf Project - Denzil

Durban, South Africa

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We’re talking to Denzel from the Clean Surf project. Thanks for talking to us today.

Denzil – Clean Surf Project

Thanks first of all for having us on your on your show.

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I remember visiting South Africa quite vividly. The colours of scenery, the animals. But for me most important thing was the meeting of the Indian and the Atlantic oceans.

Tell us about one thing that you might see in South Africa that you wouldn’t see anywhere else in the world.

Denzil – Clean Surf Project

We’ve got one of the greatest scenes, I believe in the world, which is called the Sardine Run. That is where a lot of sardines move down from the southern coastline coming up and they moving up this way because of the cooler water currents.

And then, obviously, well, whale sharks, dolphins. This is a yearly  amazing miracle that happens. They will then follow these shoals and feed off them. And then obviously have a lot of people, communities that is trying to get these sardines.

For food purpose or for selling this fish.

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Oh yeah, the Sardine Run. I’ve only experienced it in YouTube, but the sardines have this protection mechanism where when they’re being attacked by the predators, sharks and whales, they go into these balls of fish. These bait balls, and then you have these. And then you have these garnets divebombing into the water.

 You grew up on the coast and spent a lot of time in the water in the surf.

What kind of animals did you come in contact with?

Denzil – Clean Surf Project

We usually have a  lot of whales coming past in the winter months because they come down this coastline for breeding purpose or with the calves.

So yeah, you see a lot of marine life.

Unfortunately that specific coastline is just very badly polluted.

And then obviously because they live next to hills and stuff that you know is next to wherever the river is. Whatever they dump they don’t have service delivery to remove this waste because there is no even roads with the Council can remove this waste. So all of this will get dumped on embankments and then once again once it rains or whatever, all that stuff ends up in the River and it comes down.

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Poverty and pollution go hand in hand.

Pollution is often portrayed as a bad decision made by a consumer.

If you don’t have the option to make it responsible, decision their services are there then disposing word of it responsibly is not an option.

Denzil – Clean Surf Project

You get $0.80 for one kilogramme bag of plastic, which is nothing. You can’t even buy two slices of bread.

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Denzil was talking about 80 South African cents which is about 5 euro cents or five U.S. dollar cents. Since currently the waste pickers get 5 euro cents per kilo of plastic scrap and get 35 euro cents per kilo for metal scrap.

Denzil – Clean Surf Project

You look at the value for plastic. We should look at the value to cans you aluminium cans there’s more value for cans than plastic. What we’ve seen on our coastline is the guys that don’t really have work that will be a collector or walking around on the street. They will focus on removing cans.

So that would be one of the ideal things to try and do this. Just to create employment.

Denzil – Clean Surf Project

Thanks, thanks for the opportunity. And now whenever you come to South Africa, please keep in touch and I’ll take you to the coastline.

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That was Denzel from the Clean Surf Project talking about the sardine run whales, sharks, turtles, marine life, street value, or plastic refuse and how it is all connected. Check out the show notes for all the relevant links.

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